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bobquasit ([personal profile] bobquasit) wrote2008-03-14 07:50 pm
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The Future of LJ

If you haven't heard, SUP has eliminated Basic accounts, going forward. So now new people will either have to pay or have lots of ads plastered all over their journals.

This was mentioned as a possibility to the LJ Advisory board a while back, and their reaction was that it was a terrible idea. So we now know just how much SUP respects the Advisory board, i.e. not at all.

There seems to be a pattern here. Bad things happen to LJ, bad decisions are made, and the user base is lied to again and again. When bad stuff happens some users go away, some complain, and some - the assholes of LJ, as I like to call them - trot out the old "They need to make money, if you don't like it go somewhere else" line. As far as I can tell, LJ is in a continuing state of decline and will not recover.

So...what do you see as the future of LJ? What big changes/surprises will SUP or any future owners have for us? Speculate wildly, if you like!

[identity profile] joiseyguy.livejournal.com 2008-03-15 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
So am I an asshole for thinking that it's not to much to expect people to pay 5.5 cents a day for an ad-free service that is used 365 days a year by most? Or that they view ads in exchange for getting a free service? I'm a paying customer. Scads and scads of free users who won't let ad revenue pay for their free accounts negatively affects the quality of the service that I pay for. People watch free tv programs that are plastered with commercials all the time. If you don't want commercials you pay $12.95 a month for a pay station/movie channel.

[identity profile] wingedbard.livejournal.com 2008-03-15 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. I've had a paid account for years, and don't really pay attention to what account level other people have. I have noticed, though, that lj seems to be used far less frequently by most of the friends that I have here. I know in some cases that is a function of people having lives offline, but I think some of them really are gone because of SUP's consistently user-unfriendly policies.

[identity profile] klyfix.livejournal.com 2008-03-15 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to confess right now that I don't at base have a problem with ads on websites. There is a basic reality; "There ain't no such thing as a Free Lunch." Somebody and/or something does have to pay for the bandwidth and hosting and all that; they may elect to have no ads and charges and allow free access out of altruism or idealism, but it still has to be paid for. Honestly, I've wondered how LJ could get away with having no ads on the free accounts; do they amount to advertising for paid accounts or something?

There is a strange perception that Net people seem to have; "Information Wants to be Free" and that means they shouldn't have to pay for anything in any way. Well, as David Gerrold (I think) noted, "Information doesn't want to be free; Information doesn't want anything." The reality is that everything has a cost of some kind; the issue is who is paying and why. If LJ is owned by a for-profit entity and not a charity then of course they're going to want an income. Heck, even if they were a non-profit they might want an income. There's often a limit to just how much money a person or entity can just give away to do something. Mind you, I'm pretty cheap myself and prefer ad-supported to subscription for access to sites; someday I'll probably get off my behind and buy some stuff from some of web comics I like but I've not yet because, well, I'm not that good a person. :)

Now, the big issue of ads to me is what the ads are. If at some future date LJ started running ads on my Journal Thingy and they were for stuff I strongly disapproved of I might have a problem. From what I've seem the "ads by Google" can be kind of wacky in their attempts at having ads relevant to page content; I still don't quite get why there were ads for egg donors on the web comic "The Wotch" other than that the main character is female and there's lots of sex change magic zapping...uhh, no, that still makes little sense. If I did a post where I mentioned a Hentai anime as an example of the Whole Weird Area that the Japanese go into and the ads generated by the algorithms for, well, hentai and other Japanese porn I'd not be a terribly happy camper.

I would suppose that the future of LJ depends on what the users want or are willing to put up with. Ads and the like are less an issue than censorship or other interference in what's posted I would hope, but maybe it's not. I'd suppose that people expect it to be whatever the heck it was at the beginning but that's clearly not what it can be ever again. From my perspective, I don't necessarily give a fig; pretty much nothing they've done has affected me in any noticeable way. Then again, I really only use LJ as a substitute for the annoying "Hey, Look at the Cool Thing!" emails I used to send out; it's not as if anybody reads what I post or cares what I think, after all.

[identity profile] goddessgrrrrl.livejournal.com 2008-03-16 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'm starting to get nervous.

I'm worried about the censorship. I'm worried about SUP's arrogance whenever things aren't well received. I'm worried about what other "business decisions" they'll make.

I'm going to stick around for a while, but I'm likely going to buy some webspace for myself to start a blog on, where I can post whatever I want. It'll be ALL MINE, mwahahaha!

[identity profile] moonlitmagik.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
i dunno but i spend all my time on yuwie now

[identity profile] bobquasit.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
What's yuwie?

[identity profile] bobquasit.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I have webspace and did my own proto-blog years ago. The problem is that's it's so LONELY.

Okay, you'll certainly have more readers than I ever did. I'm firmly convinced that women have a big advantage in terms of getting readers. But what I'm trying to say is that as far as I know, there isn't any journal/blog service out there that offers anywhere NEAR the social networking that LJ has.

I mean, I have a bunch of friends on here - some from the real world, some from Arisia, and others from god-knows-where. If SUP ends up driving off a substantial portion of the userbase, my online social world will fall apart.

And these days, that's about as much of a social life as I have!

Jeeze, that sounds pathetic. I really need to do something about that.

[identity profile] moonlitmagik.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
its like myspace only they share the profits from their advertising down with their users.. its small now but you earn money with everything you do.. people viewing your page/pics/blogs etc and anyone under you you earn money off of 10 levels down.. im glad i got in early compared that once its myspace size the profits will be insane!! right now its more of just a hobby and investment for the future..


http://mysplash.info?moonlitmagikchild

ive dumped even myspace for it lol.. and the people seem to be a lot nicer than anywhere else compared to the amount of people i have interacted with

[identity profile] aurora-lamour.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I second that - the part about this being my only social life and that it is as much of a social life as I have. So even if I went out and got space, how would I ever get people to come meet me. If I wanted that, I would just type off line or in a book.

[identity profile] aurora-lamour.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
When it asks me who referred me, it filled in "ruffie" and said to be sure I was correct.

[identity profile] moonlitmagik.livejournal.com 2008-03-30 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
yes thats me.. its my nickname lol