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Askville Post #4: Abortion
From the discussion thread for the question "How much do you know about Roe vs. Wade?"
[A user told how his wife had an elective abortion against his will.]
[User], how about YOU imagine that a young girl has been raped by a male relative, and is pregnant. The baby is severely inbred, and will be born without a head - it cannot possibly live. Due to a medical condition, the girl's life will certainly be put at risk if she brings the pregnancy to term.
Now, imagine that YOU want to force her to have that baby, even though it might kill her, because of your religious beliefs - beliefs that she doesn't share.
Your situation as you described it was a tragedy. But that doesn't mean that abortion is a tragedy for everyone - there are times when it can literally be life-saving. And it doesn't make it right for you to force your beliefs on everyone else.
The thing that really bothers me is that the people who scream that abortion should be outlawed consistantly IGNORE the fact that the politicians and policies that they support INCREASE the number of abortions.
You don't like abortion? Fine. Neither do I. So why aren't you supporting organizations like Planned Parenthood and other birth-control education programs? They've been proved to REDUCE the number of abortions. Whereas abstinence-based programs have been promoted by the Bush administration for the last seven years, and as a result abortions and teen pregnancies have gone UP.
Let me repeat that, although I doubt you or any so-called "pro-life" person will respond to this point: THE POLICIES AND REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS YOU SUPPORT INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS. THE DEMOCRATS AND SEX EDUCATION PROGRAMS YOU HATE DECREASE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS.
You say you don't like abortions, but you are doing everything you can to make MORE of them happen.
Seriously, what's wrong with pro-lifers that they don't get that? Are they all insane? It makes no sense at all to me.
[A user told how his wife had an elective abortion against his will.]
[User], how about YOU imagine that a young girl has been raped by a male relative, and is pregnant. The baby is severely inbred, and will be born without a head - it cannot possibly live. Due to a medical condition, the girl's life will certainly be put at risk if she brings the pregnancy to term.
Now, imagine that YOU want to force her to have that baby, even though it might kill her, because of your religious beliefs - beliefs that she doesn't share.
Your situation as you described it was a tragedy. But that doesn't mean that abortion is a tragedy for everyone - there are times when it can literally be life-saving. And it doesn't make it right for you to force your beliefs on everyone else.
The thing that really bothers me is that the people who scream that abortion should be outlawed consistantly IGNORE the fact that the politicians and policies that they support INCREASE the number of abortions.
You don't like abortion? Fine. Neither do I. So why aren't you supporting organizations like Planned Parenthood and other birth-control education programs? They've been proved to REDUCE the number of abortions. Whereas abstinence-based programs have been promoted by the Bush administration for the last seven years, and as a result abortions and teen pregnancies have gone UP.
Let me repeat that, although I doubt you or any so-called "pro-life" person will respond to this point: THE POLICIES AND REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS YOU SUPPORT INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS. THE DEMOCRATS AND SEX EDUCATION PROGRAMS YOU HATE DECREASE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS.
You say you don't like abortions, but you are doing everything you can to make MORE of them happen.
Seriously, what's wrong with pro-lifers that they don't get that? Are they all insane? It makes no sense at all to me.
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Certain anti-abortion people (read: Catholics mainly) are against it for mostly religious reasons and thus are also opposed to artificial birth control (although they'd also be opposed to natural birth control methods like non-intercourse sex, but oh well). Rational arguments about what would really reduce the chance of abortion, for someone who is following the Catholic line totally, would be irrelevant.
I did see on Bill Moyer's program (pretty sure it was his; I was a bit tired) a person hailing one Presidential candidate for saying essentially what you're saying; that to reduce the number of abortions we have to have education and access to birth control and so on. But you can't vote for her. :)
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